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Re: This will come down to Goff

July 10, 2017 10:31AM
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That's what I look at. In 2014 when McVay became OC there Cousins had played in only 8 NFL games with 4 starts. He had a career QB rating of 68.6 in 203 attempts (Goff had 205 last year). Cousins played well in 2 of those 4 starts.

Then under McVay in 2014 Cousins had a QB rating of just over 86, completed over 61% of his passes and had a positive TD-INT ratio. And collectively Cousins, Griffin and McCoy had an 88.8 QB rating with 66% completions.

That's along the lines of what I would really like McVay (and LaFleur and Olsen) to be able to get out of Goff this year.

Really, 2012-2013 Cousins and 2016 Goff are not very different.
The only thing I'd add that might raise expectations is that McVay was a first time OC when grooming the neophyte Cousins. In theory, he should know more about what he's doing now so maybe Goff can produce a little better than 88.8 rating?

No matter how great a coach, if the QB can't process correctly pre and post snap and is too slow getting through his reads nothing else will matter.

Not saying that's going to be the case this year but it was a major issue last year.
I agree, but we just can't tell how much of Goff's struggles were due to being put in a position to fail. That's something I certainly give the Redskins(McVay?) credit for with Cousins. He was nurtured into becoming a better QB. He didn't just naturally have an innate ability to QB at the NFL level.

Which may also be true of Goff but I don't think we've seen anything definitive, which leaves room for optimism. Cousins and Goff fall into that potential for 2nd tier level of play IMO. With a good system and the right pieces, your team will win more than it will lose with them at the helm.
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