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Re: for 43---not an argument 43 unless

April 19, 2017 04:57AM
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To respond to what I claimed, you would have to show that different OLs across the years starting in 2006

1 had the same number and extent of OL injuries as the Rams did in the same period (ie. going a year at a time)

2. and did better under the same conditions.

I can pick a couple of examples of teams that had massive, extensive OL injuries and still managed to do well because they had a qb with special skills that allowed them to be effective under those conditions. For example New England in 2015. They had massive and extensive OL injuries but what kept them going was having a qb whose particular skill set allowed them to play well in spite of that handicap.

Just saying teams have OL injuries completely misses the point. It doesn't address what I am saying.

Now do your links demonstrate that teams had BOTH (1) the same number and extent of OL injuries as the Rams in their worst years for that, AND (2) that they did well regardless?

If your links DO demonstrate that then can you (or whoever is PMing) name me a couple of examples.

Excluding Seattle and New England, which I already named as exceptions myself.


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I was just passing along info that I had stumbled across, zn.

I had no illusions that it would change your stance. This is a confirmation bias thing anymore. Not unlike a typical climate change debate where each side chooses to believe only their own "facts".

Like I said, I thought my provided info was self explanatory. Apparently, it wasn't. Carry on. Lol.

The question is whether or not I would change YOUR stance.

See I know what I am talking about here holds up to scrutiny.

What DOESN'T hold up to scrutiny is the view that all OL injuries can be seen as the same.

They can't. Unless a team has the qb who can handle it, if you get massive and extensive OL injuries it hurts the offense. That's not an "opinion" or a stance, it;s a fact of life in the NFL.

I would say that if your data DID show that I am wrong about that, you could then name examples from the links you provided.


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/19/2017 04:58AM by zn.
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  Any doubt that McVay is serious about the OL?

Rams431205April 18, 2017 03:02PM

  Re: Any doubt that McVay is serious about the OL?

oldschoolramfan480April 18, 2017 03:08PM

  every Rams coach has demonstrated that

zn382April 18, 2017 03:13PM

  Re: every Rams coach has demonstrated that

Rams43518April 18, 2017 03:43PM

  Re: every Rams coach has demonstrated that

zn324April 18, 2017 04:11PM

  He didn't start the problem, but Fisher sure didn't fix it

promomasterj269April 18, 2017 04:20PM

  yeah he did when injuries permitted

zn348April 18, 2017 04:35PM

  Re: yeah he did when injuries permitted

Rams43253April 18, 2017 05:19PM

  Re: yeah he did when injuries permitted

zn291April 18, 2017 05:39PM

  For zn...

Rams43260April 19, 2017 03:44AM

  for 43---not an argument 43 unless

zn306April 19, 2017 04:37AM

  Re: for 43---not an argument 43 unless

Rams43313April 19, 2017 04:53AM

  Re: for 43---not an argument 43 unless

zn257April 19, 2017 04:57AM

  Re: for 43---not an argument 43 unless

Rams43223April 19, 2017 05:11AM

  Re: for 43---not an argument 43 unless

zn308April 19, 2017 05:22AM

  Re: for 43---not an argument 43 unless

Rams43282April 19, 2017 05:25AM

  Re: here are the facts

Speed_Kills286April 19, 2017 11:10AM

  here's what's being said

zn305April 19, 2017 03:52PM

  Fisher did NOT prioritize the OL early in his Rams tenure..

PaulButcher59214April 19, 2017 05:03AM

  yes he did

zn203April 19, 2017 05:27AM

  Losers make excuses. Winners...overcome adversity

promomasterj231April 19, 2017 08:20AM

  Two different things here

LesBaker362April 19, 2017 02:29PM

  we posters make slogans but history makes facts

zn331April 19, 2017 04:18PM

  Re: Lack of priority was not the issue...

dzrams284April 19, 2017 09:00AM

  I should have been more specific....

PaulButcher59301April 19, 2017 09:49AM

  Re: I should have been more specific....

dzrams215April 19, 2017 10:13AM

  Re: I should have been more specific....

PaulButcher59329April 19, 2017 10:51AM

  missing a huge point

zn381April 19, 2017 03:46PM

  Re: No McVay is filling holes on the oL with bodies...

laram197April 19, 2017 04:02PM

  Re: No McVay is filling holes on the oL with bodies...

zn273April 19, 2017 04:12PM

  Re: That has nothing to do with what I said...

laram240April 19, 2017 04:30PM

  it's a direct response to and disagreement with what you said

zn227April 19, 2017 04:43PM

  Re: Yeah that's even further from the truth...

laram280April 19, 2017 04:48PM

  Re: Yeah that's even further from the truth...

zn264April 19, 2017 05:09PM

  Re: Any doubt that McVay is serious about the OL?

roman18235April 19, 2017 04:09AM

  Re: Any doubt that McVay is serious about the OL?

zn185April 19, 2017 04:55AM

  Re: Missing the point zn........

oldschoolramfan250April 19, 2017 05:17AM

  well actually...you are

zn192April 19, 2017 05:43AM

  Barnes

LMU93309April 19, 2017 05:29AM

  Re: Barnes

zn403April 19, 2017 05:48AM

  I'm getting good vibes about EVERYTHING!

Ramgator228April 19, 2017 04:46AM

  Re: I'm getting good vibes about EVERYTHING!

oldschoolramfan211April 19, 2017 05:19AM

  Re: of course you do

Speed_Kills226April 19, 2017 06:07AM

  Re: of course you do

Rams43285April 19, 2017 06:12AM

  Re: he didn't get it done

Speed_Kills349April 19, 2017 06:24AM

  Re: of course you do

dzrams179April 19, 2017 05:06PM

  so now what

zn275April 19, 2017 09:56PM