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But to my untrained eye, there's something that should always receive great weight in evals.
Does the player consistently make plays on film?
If he does, shouldn't that count more than measurables?
My understanding is that Engram makes a ton of plays, so he should definitely be in the conversation at #37. We are starved for O playmaking weapons and McVay knows how to best develop and scheme TE's.
Sounds like one of a dozen or so terrific players that would be great choices if they even fell to us.
Basically stat scouting. Did scheme get him open for the plays? Is defensive focus on other areas? Is it an offense where everyone is makiing plays? Does he make contested plays? Does he pile up plays vs lesser competition?
Almost every single player being considered as a legit draft prospect made "plays"...a lot of them.
Yeah, Flip.
I realize that it's an oversimplification. Not at all nuanced.
Then again, it does have the advantage of not making mistakes as a result of paralysis by analysis, doesn't it?
A recent classic example by 12 teams in '14 was passing over Aaron Donald despite his film and dominance in the Senior bowl practices. Too short, too small, too light, arms not long enough, etc.
I remain convinced that seeing a given player consistently making great plays on film in real football games should have prominent weight in making final draft decisions.
The percentage is minuscule. There is no paralysis by analysis because there is essentially zero analysis.
You bring up 2014 as an example of 12 teams taking non-playmakers over the playmaking Donald. Who taken before Donald didn't "make plays"?
Maybe my analysis is paralyzed but here's my scouting report based on your criteria...
Jadeveon Clowney made plays
Greg Robinson made plays
Blake Bortles made plays
Sammy Watkins made plays
Khalil Mack made plays
Jake Matthews made plays
Mike Evans made plays
Justin Gilbert made plays
Anthony Barr made plays
Eric Ebron made plays
Taylor Lewan made plays
Odell Beckham made plays
Why so touchy, Flip?
I was speaking in generalities, man. As in friendly discussion, not an ambush.
Yeah, all players make plays, that's why highlight film can be so misleading.
I'm thinking generally of players that consistently make outstanding plays in real football games. Dominate, even. As opposed to pajama olympics measurement hairsplitting.
I believe that such film should trump the measurement nitpicking. That's all. Based on what I've learned, Engram fits the bill.
Now, when two or more prospects all pass that threshold, well... that's a nice problem to have at one's pick, huh? Let the bigger perceived need govern.
I'm sure you know all that, and I'm sure that you agree.
Are we still friends, or what? Lol.
His hype built because a "tight end" ran a 4.42.
Disagreement doesn't make me touchy 43. I am interested in actual discussions on prospects but what often happens is "he's a playmaker" or he has "it". Another option is when I here about some random stat (what was Goff's red zone TD to INT ratio again?) that is supposed to have the same life altering meaning for me that it did for the other person. There is no discussion when everyone is a playmaker in some way, how do you discuss "it", or where do we go when we greatly disagree on the relevance of stats?
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