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Goff is the rookie converting from an Air Raid system who does not yet have the mental chops to see and counter blitzes.
Keenum is the ex-Air Raid qb who is now a vet who knew much more about countering blitzes and other veteran aspects of the game.
Here are Keenum's stats from his first year starting in 2013:
54% completions, qb rating 78.2, zero wins.
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Did anyone trade 6 draft picks for Keenum???
Was he considered the most pro ready QB in his draft??
No and NO.
Spare me the excuses, you know exactly what this is about. We are not comparing (at least I HOPE we are not) journeyman QB's, what Goff showed or better yet did not show last year is revolting. All we can hope now is he has made a rermarkable transformation from Jan. to training camp.
I don't care about the draft picks. You can if you want. I don't. My bet is that Goff will be worth the picks. Either way, to me that has no relation to the issue at hand, which is us posters trying to be objective and realistic about a player, while also allowing that there will be different views of that.
So I was just engaged in a little micro discussion. In that discussion, I was pointing out that you were completely ignoring the difference between a rookie and a 5 year vet. To me that's a very strange thing to ignore since in fact it's probably the single most important factor.
And that is coming from someone who somewhere else in the same thread pointed out that Keenum had half the sack percentage with the same OL (which again has to do with the difference between a vet and a rookie).
And as a matter fact, no matter where they are picked, the vast majority of qbs do not play well as rookies. With very rare exceptions.
So just in terms of being focused and objective, basically, Goff was a rookie converting from an offense that did not prepare him for NFL play. When Keenum was a young qb converting from the same college offense, he did not do well either. That's a significant aspect of all this.
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