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Re: False equivalence....

February 14, 2017 04:38PM
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Blue and Gold
Whatever PFF is or isn't they have more skins on the wall than anyone here or any other fan board.

you have a VALID POINT ... in this discussion we should not think that PFF is without merit.... because they have plenty of it.

On the other hand, I tend to back off of buying into PFF as the Jesus Christ of the NFL.... not saying anyone here does ... but some comments sort of lean that direction.

back in the late 1990's a lot of people followed Bernie Miklasz as if he was a cult leader...and what ever he said was the gospel truth.

in 2003 I visited Rams training camp (in Macomb IL) It was obvious to the most amateur observer (me) was that Kurt Warner wasn't the same Kurt Warner that we saw between 1999 and 2001.... yet following the very same practice I went to ... on the radio... Bernie M announced that Kurt Warner was back to his old self of the 1999-2001 days. (opening game of the season proved Bernie wrong). Bernie was mailing it in ... telling his cult followers what they wanted to hear and not how Kurt Warner was actually performing. I lost respect for Bernie that day, and from that time forward journalists had to earn my respect.

But let me digress ... here a couple of first-hand experiences of how I personally realized how much the media butchers the truth.

#1 ... way back when I played sports .. one game, I performed well, but the paper spelled my name THREE different ways in the article. ... WTF ... moral of the story is that reporters don't always do much fact checking.

#2 happened last December ... I was asked to submit a few (wine and spirits) ideas for a National magazine ... One of my submissions appeared on the front cover (wow 14 minutes of fame) ... the other submission was buried 90 some pages deep, but the 2nd submission (a recommendation, not a rating) had tasting notes written by someone else and using descriptors for flavors that never appear in that type of wine. Moral of the story is that editors will manipulate things while trying to appeal more to what readers want to hear and caring less about the actual truth. The magazine helped me (and the winery) sell a lot of that wine, but it tasted nothing like what was written in the magazine.

Every sports article I see, I can't help but wonder how much fact checking went into their work, or how much their work got butchered and modified by editors.

Bottom line ... I am all for people reading up on what the "experts" suggest, but we shouldn't let them make up our mind for us.... that being said ... QB Josh Allen ... I saw him with my own eyes (I made up my own mind) .. I like what I saw ... I anticipate that he will have a stellar NFL career.



I want this guy wearing Horns: Jordan Westercamp

the video doesn't show how good his hands really are. I think he can be the next Danny Amendola.... with Chris Carter's hands... and then some.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  An excellent GRob post by Hacksaw_64...

Rams432009February 11, 2017 09:43AM

  Is it excellent cause its an optimist post?

max796February 11, 2017 10:40AM

  Re: Is it excellent cause its an optimist post?

Rams43616February 11, 2017 10:46AM

  It's' more than just optimistic

waterfield615February 11, 2017 11:20AM

  there's just going to be different ways of seeing things like this

zn461February 11, 2017 11:37AM

  Re: there's just going to be different ways of seeing things like this

bigjimram21406February 11, 2017 02:02PM

  I believe GRob's biggest fault

reggae616February 11, 2017 11:49AM

  Re: Is it excellent cause its an optimist post?

stlramz429February 11, 2017 01:08PM

  Re: Is it excellent cause its an optimist post?

BobCarl368February 11, 2017 03:23PM

  Re: An excellent GRob post by Hacksaw_64...

dzrams572February 11, 2017 11:45AM

  Re: An excellent GRob post by Hacksaw_64...

zn536February 11, 2017 01:16PM

  Re: An excellent GRob post by Hacksaw_64...

dzrams402February 11, 2017 02:25PM

  Re: An excellent GRob post by Hacksaw_64...

zn459February 11, 2017 02:29PM

  I base it on watching games and

Rams_81620February 12, 2017 07:52AM

  i would say to Hacksaw and you...

jemach429February 13, 2017 04:24PM

  Re: You lost me with the Jimmy Johnson quote...

laram463February 11, 2017 01:18PM

  Re: You lost me with the Jimmy Johnson quote...

Rams43469February 11, 2017 01:44PM

  Re: You lost me with the Jimmy Johnson quote...

dzrams758February 11, 2017 02:46PM

  Re: That's fair but here's the rub....

laram452February 11, 2017 03:08PM

  Re: This is fair too...

dzrams438February 12, 2017 08:10AM

  Re: This is fair too...

zn394February 12, 2017 09:54AM

  Ignorance and stupidly are not the same...

jemach405February 13, 2017 04:32PM

  Re: They learned to as hopefully Robinson will...NM

laram399February 13, 2017 04:42PM

  Repeated mistakes

RFIP387February 11, 2017 07:43PM

  Lol...

jemach339February 13, 2017 04:18PM

  Here's Hacksaw_64

BobCarl635February 11, 2017 03:34PM

  Re: Here's Hacksaw_64

dzrams551February 11, 2017 06:54PM

  his 5th year option is over $11.9M

LMU93370February 12, 2017 02:44AM

  Re: his 5th year option is over $11.9M

Rams43463February 12, 2017 06:46AM

  Re: Echo that, and agreed

leafnose523February 12, 2017 09:51AM

  Re: Here's Hacksaw_64

BobCarl487February 12, 2017 07:06AM

  why would he want to come back?

Rams_81376February 12, 2017 08:06AM

  Re: Here's Hacksaw_64

dzrams368February 12, 2017 08:06AM

  How about Scottie --- No!

jemach363February 12, 2017 09:27AM

  Spring must be approaching

ferragamo79371February 12, 2017 07:05AM

  All of that may be true but he is a liability because

Rams_81439February 12, 2017 07:38AM

  I have never seen so much forgiveness for bad play

Rams_81351February 12, 2017 07:49AM

  Isn't that the truth...

jemach368February 12, 2017 09:25AM

  This is a rose colored glass post...bottle glass...

jemach506February 12, 2017 09:22AM

  Re: This is a rose colored glass post...bottle glass...

Rams43527February 12, 2017 11:32AM

  Re: This is a rose colored glass post...bottle glass...

Hacksaw_64397February 12, 2017 12:55PM

  PFF Grade

Rams_81475February 12, 2017 03:23PM

  Re: PFF Grade

no name521February 13, 2017 03:25AM

  Re: PFF Grade

RamJr408February 13, 2017 04:04AM

  Re: PFF Grade

no name347February 13, 2017 05:08AM

  Re: PFF Grade

RamJr344February 13, 2017 05:39AM

  Re: Good points…

dzrams394February 13, 2017 07:23AM

  Re: PFF is a "joke" among NFL players and insiders...

laram429February 13, 2017 08:06AM

  Re: PFF is a "joke" among NFL players and insiders...

dzrams385February 13, 2017 10:41AM

  Re: Last I heard there were 11 teams subscribed...nm

laram1013February 13, 2017 10:53AM

  Re: That's significant...

dzrams368February 13, 2017 12:33PM

  Re: That's significant...

laram360February 13, 2017 12:43PM

  Re: That's significant...

BobCarl340February 13, 2017 01:22PM

  Re: That's significant...

dzrams348February 13, 2017 02:23PM

  Re: A Red Herring...NM

laram376February 13, 2017 02:42PM

  Re: Not sure how but it's ok...NM

dzrams323February 13, 2017 04:15PM

  Re: That's significant...

BobCarl330February 13, 2017 03:33PM

  Re: Fair enough...we disagree (NM)

dzrams335February 13, 2017 04:14PM

  Re: Last I heard there were 11 teams subscribed...nm

RamJr353February 14, 2017 03:03AM

  Re: Last I heard there were 11 teams subscribed...nm

laram689February 14, 2017 04:36AM

  Re: Last I heard there were 11 teams subscribed...nm

RamJr629February 14, 2017 05:18AM

  The key question is this:

Blue and Gold411February 14, 2017 05:43AM

  Re: False equivalence....

laram400February 14, 2017 06:33AM

  Re: False equivalence....

dzrams333February 14, 2017 07:34AM

  Re: False equivalence....

laram354February 14, 2017 07:43AM

  Re: False equivalence....

dzrams429February 14, 2017 08:07AM

  Re: I've never seen evidence of this...

laram350February 14, 2017 08:12AM

  Re: The precise number doesn't matter...

dzrams336February 14, 2017 09:08AM

  Re: I don't agree with that at all....

laram519February 14, 2017 09:18AM

  Re: Ok, we disagree again, no biggie...

dzrams430February 14, 2017 09:56AM

  It should drop

Blue and Gold491February 14, 2017 10:27AM

  Re: False equivalence....

BobCarl383February 14, 2017 09:01AM

  Re: False equivalence....

Blue and Gold450February 14, 2017 10:15AM

  Re: And...

laram393February 14, 2017 10:18AM

  Re: False equivalence....

BobCarl433February 14, 2017 04:38PM

  Re: PFF is a "joke" among NFL players and insiders...

no name423February 14, 2017 09:45AM

  Re:What number do you believe to be true and why? (NM)

dzrams276February 14, 2017 10:12AM

  Re: PFF Grade

no name387February 13, 2017 08:02AM

  Re: PFF Grade Attachments

Hacksaw_64481February 13, 2017 10:18AM

  Re: Gr8 post....NM

laram411February 13, 2017 10:23AM

  Not a fan of PFF

Blue and Gold359February 13, 2017 10:36AM

  You said "I could easily go into more detail, but i do not have the time."

LesBaker339February 13, 2017 01:45PM

  Re: This is a rose colored glass post...bottle glass...

dzrams319February 12, 2017 04:36PM

  He gets himself in the grey area because

Rams_81372February 12, 2017 04:59PM

  Re: This is a rose colored glass post...bottle glass...

BobCarl340February 13, 2017 12:28AM

  He might be a bust at LT, but also might be a serviceable Guard

RockRam350February 13, 2017 01:02AM

  This is why the draft pick is so so bad

Rams_81438February 13, 2017 02:54AM

  Re: This is why the draft pick is so so bad

Rams43447February 13, 2017 04:54AM

  They were not 2nd pick in the draft

Rams_81408February 13, 2017 05:43AM

  Re: They were not 2nd pick in the draft

Rams43338February 13, 2017 06:16AM

  Re: Rams only hope for GRob......

oldschoolramfan351February 13, 2017 06:38AM

  I count only 2

Rams_81355February 13, 2017 06:51AM

  Re: I count only 2

Rams43351February 13, 2017 06:56AM

  I think you are devaluing position of a draft pick

Rams_81571February 13, 2017 06:59AM

  Re: I think you are devaluing position of a draft pick

Rams43455February 13, 2017 07:04AM

  THat is a good point

Rams_81984February 13, 2017 07:09AM

  Re: THat is a good point

Rams43358February 13, 2017 07:31AM

  Re: I count only 2

dzrams486February 13, 2017 07:50AM

  This is the key part

Rams_81349February 13, 2017 08:15AM

  Re: This is the key part

Rams43764February 13, 2017 09:12AM

  Re: This is the key part

dzrams334February 13, 2017 10:02AM

  Re: I count only 2

Rams43341February 13, 2017 09:09AM

  it won't be a smart team....

jemach329February 13, 2017 04:34PM

  Re: An excellent GRob post by Hacksaw_64...

govane507February 13, 2017 06:53AM

  has that ever happened - i like it

Rams_81529February 13, 2017 06:57AM

  BillyT has been banging that drum for months

RamUK567February 14, 2017 05:26AM