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First round grade isn't nuanced

January 21, 2017 09:12AM
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You think GRob is a bust, Shonka had him as a first rounder...so it's a miss by him also. Not seeing how what you said counters what 43 said at all.

Its a lot more nuanced than the way you are viewing it. And that again is the difference between a winning organizations approach and a losing one.

If the Ram had taken GRob AFTER Lewan or Matthews was off the board later in the first round then it could have been viewed as worth the risk due to his upside and an unfortunate failure.

But it wasn't that at all. It was an unnecessary high risk roll of the dice BECAUSE they had more responsible options available.

You can have great scouts in your organization but if you don't have a smart GM culling all the information and making responsible and thoughtful choices you end up with a GRob.

It's a GRADE. He was wrong according to you. So I don't see how he is some proof of what the Rams should've done. If he said "Grob isn't worth a pick"...something that would be the case with a bust...you would have a point using him as a reference.

The nuanced part for me comes with coaching, environment, scheme fit, consistency, etc....

His grades on ALL of those players were close enough to justify placement based on teams factoring which player fit the other factors like scheme fit. The Rams picked Grob...pretending you know how the others would've performed in the same situation is pure make believe. One thing the Patriots excel at are targeting (often high picks) that other teams are using completely outside of their skillset, stealing them, and making them work because they put them in the right fit in a good environment.



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  Re: Blinkscout new 3-4 alignment mock draft.

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  Re: Blinkscout new 3-4 alignment mock draft.

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  Re: maybe those guys aren't DEs anymore

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  Re: maybe those guys aren't DEs anymore

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  Re: Blinkscout new 3-4 alignment mock draft.

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  Re: Really nice job. Some key points.

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  Re: Really nice job. Some key points.

max362January 21, 2017 07:21AM

  So your point is that Shonka was wrong...no?

Flipper336354January 21, 2017 08:23AM

  Short sighted view

max367January 21, 2017 08:47AM

  First round grade isn't nuanced

Flipper336764January 21, 2017 09:12AM

  Hopefully with better coaching/culture

Flipper336480January 21, 2017 05:29AM

  Re: Hopefully with better coaching/culture

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