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Didn't he trade up for T. Austin, pick Quick over Alshon Jeffery, pick I. Pead in 2nd rd, pick L. Joyner in 2nd rd. And trade the farm for Goff?
Kevin Demoff is close with Snead (He brought him in last year, not Fisher) and believes he will be at least a very good NFL GM. Also means Demoff feels Snead was severely handcuffed by Fisher over the last 5 years.
I like Snead and feel he is a pretty good talent evaluator from what little I can see. My problem with retaining him is:
A) Demoff brought him in and is close with him. That alone creates a bias and a little boys club mentality.
B ) If Snead never had an opportunity to perform his job over the past 5 years, that means that Demoff (Yes Kroenke signed off on it) himself handcuffed him for those 5 years giving Fisher that control.
C) Snead still has to be held responsible for some of those picks over those 5 years. We cant put that 100% on Fisher. Which ones we will probably never know. I`d imagine most of the higher round picks were Fisher`s. BUT.....Let also not forget that it was fairly well known that Snead was the one that wanted to trade down in round 2 in 2012 and missed out the player Fisher wanted in LB stud Bobby Wagner. Instead, the Rams ended up with Pead and Watkins. That turned out to be a major fail by Snead.
D) If Demoff feels Snead was as handcuffed by Fisher severely over the past 5 years, that would mean that Snead will essentially become a rookie GM. Add that to a 30 year old rookie HC. Talk about youth movement in a huge market.
E) Were there not better and/or more experienced and accomplished GM candidates out there? Could the Rams have at least interviewed a couple higher profile candidates?
Where is any past winning and experience coming from between Demoff, Snead and McVay? I know everyone has to start somewhere, but man all 3 with essentially no successful pedigrees in their current positions held within the Rams organization?
Something seems wrong here with ownership if you ask me.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
A) This could create bias; it could also create trust. People hire people they are close to all the time. If a head football guy like Wolf/Polian were brought in to run the whole show, you can believe that they would have brought in people that they are close to.
That doesn't make it a little boys club. What makes something a little boys club is to hire your friend when they are not competent. But you yourself said that Snead is a pretty good talent evaluator. I agree. And I'm sure Demoff feels the same. If that's true, Snead has competency.
True but we are talking about a guy in Demoff that has no track record of winning/success at his position and he`s keeping a GM who is a friend that also has no track record of winning/success at his position. We are trusting guys that haven't done anything yetB ) This is true. And they corrected that mistake by getting rid of Fisher. Owners and VPs make mistakes too. Once they realize that, the best they can do is get rid of the bad part, keep the good stuff.
Yes, but this is an owner and VP that haven't made any moves that have resulted in on field success yet. Demoff has been with the Rams for 8 seasons. When I see good decisions being made with hires and see a winning team I will give credit where credit is due, and understand that mistakes will be mixed in with the successful moves. I know we have to give them these current hires a chance, but if these fail, then there is a serious problem up top IMO.C) This is true too. IMO, this is why it appears that Snead barely squeaked by in keeping his job. If he absolutely crushed it on more picks, they probably would have been less willing to let a new HC be the determining factor on if he was retained.
The only way a new HC hire was going to be a determining factor on Snead staying was if it were a big name HC. And even then Demoff would have done his best to try and keep Snead. It became apparent fairly early in the process that there were no big name hires that were interested.D) It will be a youth movement because all three of them are young. But Snead being a rookie GM is overstated. He's got plenty of experience now running an entire personnel scouting department, making trades, signing free agents, etc. The biggest difference is, now the team will be more constructed in his vision versus Fishers. I personally feel that Fisher's overarching vision was one of the biggest problems.
I agree with this, but at the end of the day, Snead is finally a REAL GM. Now there is no Fisher to put any blame on. He now needs to walk the walk for the first time as an NFL GM. He is a rookie in some regard because this is the first time he can actually perform all the roles of a GM, while working under Demoff.Interestingly enough, McVay stated several times in his interview that he wanted the job here because his, Sneads, and Demoff's visions of how to build a winner aligned.
Of course he did. He is a little kid in a candy store and just hit the lottery. And everyone wants to build a winner.E) Are GM's who have had great success sitting on the sidelines? If they are, it's probably because they want to be there. The reality is, most GMs (and HC's for that matter) fail. I'd lean towards no on your question here.
That's something we don't know and will never know. There could certainly have been a couple experienced winning ones out there, but maybe not. And it wouldn't have to be successful GM`s, it could be younger successful assistant GM`s like an Eric DeCosta. And we don't know if he was even available. And it could also be argued that he may not be any better a GM than Snead. Lots of ways to look at it and just a lot of opinions from both sides.Now, your last point I think is huge. There are no successful people in the organization. It's why if I was Kroenke, I would turn over the entire football operation to a Wolf/Polian as suggested by many on this board long ago. The problem may be as I alluded to above: maybe none of those guys are available.
So assuming they are not available, what's the next best thing?
