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Re: and is he citable as a credible source of inside Rams info?

October 29, 2016 09:52PM
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A fan blogger cites him as offering inside info.

If you're blogger Will Reeve do you try to cite this as authoritative:

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Two separate NFL sources recently told John McMullen of Today’s Pigskin that the Rams’ coaching staff are far more comfortable with Mannion as the backup

Notice that that's NFL sources, not Rams sources. Which begs the question--how do "NFL sources" know what Rams coaches are thinking? Either the Rams are one of the leakiest teams in the NFL, or, more likely, they were speculating and McMullen repeats it as information not speculation. Assuming they even were legit NFL sources.

To me, Will Reeve gave his game away when he cites that stuff, without qualification, as a "source."

Therefore how seriously do I take editorial comments on what presumably the Rams coaching staff thinks about their own qbs.

Last time a credible official reporter was at a Rams practice watching Goff throw with the ones, it was Vinny B, and he said Goff looked good.

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Carson Wentz vs. Jared Goff: Choice already seems obviou

[www.todayspigskin.com]

John McMullen

September 21, 2016

There are a lot of scouts in and around the NFL looking over their shoulders right now trying to explain how in the world they possibly thought Jared Goff was a better pro prospect than Carson Wentz.

As the Wentz Wagon rolls on in Philadelphia, fueled by shout-outs from the President of the United States and jersey sales that would make LeBron James blush, Goff, who was taken No. 1 overall back in April, one spot ahead of Wentz, gets used to being the backup to Case Keenum — a reality that, in truth, is not even deserved because the best QB in Los Angeles right now may actually be Sean Mannion.

Some who advocated taking Goff over Wentz, like Cleveland Browns chief strategy officer Paul DePodesta, who traded out of the second spot because he didn’t think Wenta was a top-20 level pro QB, can correctly point out that making declarative statements after a sample size of two games is unfair to everyone.

Those looking for cover also point out that his brilliant start was accomplished against perhaps the two worst teams in all of professional football, the Browns and the Chicago Bears.

More so, the NFL has a way of humbling even the most talented players at times, something that figures to at least start for Wentz in Week 3 when the competition turns from bottom five into top five with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

But, the story of Wentz has nothing to do with the raw numbers or the fact that he is the first rookie in NFL history to win his first two starts while not turning the football over, it has to do with the way he handles the position and its responsibilities in an era where most signal callers arrive in the league woefully unprepared to handle what is about to be thrown at them.

Goff, of course, fits into that category after spending his career in Berkeley running Sonny Dykes’ Bear-Raid Offense.

The skill set is most certainly there for Goff, but some of the simplest tasks a quarterback must accomplish in the NFL are foreign to him — like calling plays in the huddle and the terminology of doing that, as well as taking the snap under center.

As for Wentz, he grew up in the pro-style system that North Dakota State runs and is already comfortable with autonomy at the line of scrimmage, whether it’s overlooking the defense and killing from one option to another or handling the protection calls in concert with his veteran center Jason Kelce.

As far as full-fledged audibles, Wentz has taken to them like a duck to water while Goff is still trying to figure out why in the world it’s called Spider 2 Y Banana in the first place.




In other words, Wentz is excelling in advanced calculus class while Goff is still working on his times tables.

So how in the world did a bunch of smart football people believe Goff was a better option than Wentz?

Some of it has to do with circumstance as Wentz is surrounded by better coaching that includes a triumvirate of ex-quarterbacks in Philadelphia in head coach Doug Pederson, offensive coordinator Frank Reich and QB coach John DeFilippo.

Goff, meanwhile, is mentored by a defensive-minded head coach (Jeff Fisher), a first-time coordinator in Rob Boras, whose speciality was tight ends and the offensive line, and a QB coach, Chris Weinke, who is so young he is more of a peer and just two years into the coaching profession.

If you are being completely truthful, however, the argument came down to level of competition for many despite the fact that quarterbacks like Doug Williams, Phil Simms, Steve McNair and Joe Flacco have already proven prospects from the FCS level can succeed on the biggest stage.

After all, if the kid with the high-end skill set from a Pac-12 school fails, you chalk it up to the draft being an inexact science. However, if the prospect taken at No. 2 overall from North Dakota State falls flat and you pounded the table for him, well then your employment is going to be called into question.

Too many used that as a crutch for the decision, obviously.

Politics are part of life and they can cause people to make some specious decisions. In a vacuum, nothing pointed to Goff over Wentz and you are now seeing that play out in real time.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  RamsWire: Coaching staff still prefer Mannion over Goff, big changes coming in LA

MamaRAMa1989October 29, 2016 04:40PM

  Re: RamsWire: Coaching staff still prefer Mannion over Goff, big changes coming in LA

CraigMatson805October 29, 2016 05:09PM

  Fan blogitorial stuff

zn736October 29, 2016 05:34PM

  Re: Fan blogitorial stuff

stlramz647October 30, 2016 07:10AM

  we're not talking about the same things

zn434October 30, 2016 07:53AM

  Certainly it does

LesBaker409October 30, 2016 12:36PM

  Re: Certainly it does

Rams43403October 30, 2016 01:08PM

  Nope, wide right

LesBaker326October 30, 2016 01:24PM

  Re: Fan blogitorial stuff

reggae366October 30, 2016 09:20PM

  Re: Thanks, Mama

leafnose433October 29, 2016 06:24PM

  Re: RamsWire: Coaching staff still prefer Mannion over Goff, big changes coming in LA

Rams43531October 29, 2016 07:50PM

  mixed up responses

zn539October 29, 2016 08:08PM

  Re: mixed up responses

Rams43504October 29, 2016 08:20PM

  Re: mixed up responses

zn396October 29, 2016 08:32PM

  Re: mixed up responses

Rams43347October 30, 2016 07:11AM

  Re: mixed up responses

zn351October 30, 2016 07:44AM

  an actual reporter

zn420October 30, 2016 08:07AM

  Re: mixed up responses

Rams43309October 30, 2016 12:23PM

  JOHN MCMULLEN has decent bio

Blue and Gold589October 29, 2016 09:04PM

  and is he citable as a credible source of inside Rams info?

zn402October 29, 2016 09:41PM

  Re: and is he citable as a credible source of inside Rams info?

zn506October 29, 2016 09:52PM

  Re: JOHN MCMULLEN has decent bio

poplarbluffman458October 30, 2016 04:36AM

  Re: JOHN MCMULLEN has decent bio

oldschoolramfan353October 30, 2016 05:29AM

  Re: JOHN MCMULLEN has decent bio

zn405October 30, 2016 09:33AM

  Yes

Blue and Gold417October 30, 2016 01:15PM

  Re: Yes

Rams43733October 30, 2016 01:23PM

  what got trashed

zn409October 30, 2016 02:48PM

  un-huh

Blue and Gold529October 30, 2016 03:10PM

  Re: un-huh

zn341October 30, 2016 04:01PM

  Re: un-huh

Blue and Gold469October 30, 2016 04:38PM

  Re: un-huh

zn734October 30, 2016 06:58PM

  Re: un-huh

Blue and Gold421October 30, 2016 10:25PM

  Perfectly good source

LesBaker363October 31, 2016 03:48AM

  What I said is simple

Blue and Gold363October 31, 2016 12:45PM

  He's not the one making the claim

LesBaker340October 31, 2016 01:22PM

  Re: He's not the one making the claim

zn353October 31, 2016 02:30PM

  That is what the media does

Blue and Gold419October 31, 2016 03:15PM

  Re: That is what the media does

poplarbluffman330November 01, 2016 02:46AM

  And

Blue and Gold335November 01, 2016 11:04AM

  Again it's not HIS voice that is being called into question

LesBaker312November 01, 2016 01:21PM