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not really what I am saying

October 30, 2016 10:11AM
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Deadpool
because he has a different grading system then you or I. its obvious I have a different system then you, so either you are saying mine is wrong or Jemach isn't wrong afterall because everyone evaluates drafts and draft picks differently.


I didn't just say you used different criteria. That's only part of the equation. Unless you get the entire equation you're not really responding to what I said.

And here's my main point. Remember what I want to introduce to the discussion. Some ballast. I said, what are hit percentages on OTHER teams. Known good drafting teams. That way the Rams hit percentage can be put into some kind of realistic context.

Without that kind of ballast it seems to me that subjective ideas of how many hits you're supposed to have are just not useful. What's the REAL hit percentage on REAL teams that draft well? How do the Rams compare?

I said 40% was good, looking at other teams. You then said the Rams were 30%. So you used my 40% and your 30%. That's not really a response to me. To have a response to me that takes account what I am doing, I would need YOUR evaluation of a few other teams. According to YOUR criteria, was is a decent hit percentage for OTHER teams?

I got my "40+% is good" conclusion by looking at other teams...the way I look at hits. So how do those other teams look...the way YOU look at hits. For all I know, 30% is actually good.

And no I don't think that Jemach is right in any way shape or form because he states that Rams drafting has been bad. I don't think it's possible to demonstrate they have been BAD. Now, 2006-2008...that was BAD. 2012-2015? We can quibble over the details but I don't see any earthly way someone can say it's BAD. Not with the standard for bad being 2006-8.

Either way---my main point is this. HOWEVER YOU COUNT HITS, what's a basic percentage for "good" you get from doing the numbers on teams we know draft well. Only THEN do the numbers on the Rams make any sense.

I looked and came up with 40+% as good, for other teams. I then compared the Rams who also did 40+%.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/30/2016 10:14AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Les Snead

LARams171194October 28, 2016 08:09AM

  Because...

Ramsfsninmd523October 28, 2016 09:59AM

  the coach coaches (or not) and the snead acquires the talent.

PHDram420October 28, 2016 10:15AM

  Well....

Ramsfsninmd356October 28, 2016 10:35AM

  Re: Well....

PHDram501October 28, 2016 12:22PM

  The myth of Les the savior and the empty roster lives on

promomasterj404October 29, 2016 02:49PM

  You've gotta be kidding me!!!

RamUK397October 30, 2016 08:26AM

  Re: You've gotta be kidding me!!!

Rampage2K-642October 30, 2016 09:33AM

  Not a very good burn, all except for SJ are still playing

promomasterj324October 31, 2016 09:23AM

  17 percent

PHDram313October 31, 2016 10:07AM

  What percentage of current Rams will be playing 5 years from now

promomasterj279October 31, 2016 12:02PM

  Relative to all the picks he had...

jemach383October 29, 2016 03:34PM

  that's just demonstrably wrong

zn533October 29, 2016 03:59PM

  what is the definition of a hit? I have Snead at 30%

Deadpool498October 30, 2016 08:05AM

  Re: WoW that's just brutal...and right!!...NM...

laram511October 30, 2016 08:13AM

  Re: what is the definition of a hit? I have Snead at 30%

zn407October 30, 2016 08:23AM

  So Jemach might not be wrong on his assessment

Deadpool515October 30, 2016 09:41AM

  not really what I am saying

zn483October 30, 2016 10:11AM

  I don't need other teams hit rates to determine

Deadpool360October 30, 2016 10:32AM

  Re: I don't need other teams hit rates to determine

zn347October 30, 2016 11:03AM

  answer me this last question

Deadpool373October 30, 2016 11:20AM

  Re: answer me this last question

zn371October 30, 2016 01:31PM

  I agree with ZN

Rams_81330October 30, 2016 02:46PM

  thats cool, but those three are more like quick sand then a foundation

Deadpool377October 30, 2016 03:36PM

  Re: thats cool, but those three are more like quick sand then a foundation

zn323October 30, 2016 03:51PM

  Ram 81 mentioned foundation

Deadpool436October 30, 2016 04:02PM

  oh okay I misread

zn442October 30, 2016 04:15PM

  Re: I agree with ZN

poplarbluffman364November 01, 2016 02:40AM

  Re: Relative to all the picks he had...

David Deacon311November 01, 2016 01:39AM

  I also remember the days of 14-2

ferragamo79357October 30, 2016 11:08AM

  I tend agree...

jemach373October 29, 2016 03:30PM

  F&S made it possible to even HAVE all those picks in the 1st place....

SunTzu_vs_Camus439October 31, 2016 06:59AM

  Re: Les Snead

Rams43462October 28, 2016 10:06AM

  Re: Les Snead

LARams17419October 28, 2016 10:33AM

  Re: Les Snead

CraigMatson344October 29, 2016 04:18PM

  Re: Les Snead

73Ram346October 30, 2016 03:50AM

  Don't most GM's disappear during the season ?

IowaRam379October 29, 2016 04:21PM

  Re: Les Snead

BobCarl388October 30, 2016 06:30AM

  Re: Les Snead

poplarbluffman513October 31, 2016 10:47AM