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Re: Seriously? (Part 2)

October 26, 2016 06:33PM
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RamUK
You think human psychology is that simple?

Maybe Google confirmation bias, and sunk cost fallacy.

Then get back to me smiling smiley

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zn
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sstrams
..because Fisher will always use the "we drafted Goff and haven't been able to play him yet - lets finish what we started" bs... So, then next year Fisher will have an excuse, "well, Goff didn't have experience and needed to grow into the NFL" thing.... which maybe why he won't play him THIS year - so he'll have that excuse NEXT year..

With all due respect, though, if something is just bs and you can see through it posting on a message board, why wouldn't SK? Who owns other sports teams and has experience hiring and firing.

If Fisher is not fired this year it will be because SK has his own firm reasons for not wanting to. There's no realistic scenario where he sits in his office, gets bs-ed by a coach, and naively goes "okay sounds good." He will have his own mind on the issue either way.

Here;s the problem with that. What we say about SK and JF invariably reflects our own biases. So to claim it's possible that for example SK could have a confirmation bias in relation to Fisher, you have to believe certain things about Fisher. Namely, you have to believe that Fisher is not worth keeping, so that keeping him has to be explained by a bias---ie. if you assume Fisher is bad and that SK could have no rational reason to keep him, then SK keeping him has to be explained in terms of that bias. Which of course could simply be the bias of the person saying that---they are so decidedly against Fisher that their bias is, if SK doesn't fire him, it must be because of SK's bias. Basically it's traps within traps. cool smiley Infinite regress.

So I left all the mind-reading and net psychology out of it.

Instead I assumed that SK will not be the only owner I ever heard of who let a coach talk him into keeping him when the issue of firing that coach comes up, where basically the coach pulls that off by bs-ing that owner. But then that was said in response to one very specific comment...it wasn't a general observation, it was a response to the idea that JF could bs SK into not firing him (assuming firing was even an issue).

Now that specific statement aside, and moving on to the general observation, I assume that SK will have his own good reasons for acting, whether the action is to fire Fisher OR keep him. I won't have psychology cards ready to challenge whichever decision I happen to like the least, personally. cool smiley

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/2016 06:36PM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  How many loses would it take for Kroenke to fire Fisher after this season?

PaulButcher591183October 25, 2016 03:08PM

  I'm not sure Kroenke...

JamesJM614October 25, 2016 03:18PM

  Re: I'm not sure Kroenke...

-X-445October 25, 2016 04:59PM

  7-9, he's gone

BigGame81439October 25, 2016 04:20PM

  Rams arn't going to go 7-9

IowaRam431October 25, 2016 04:24PM

  here's how an 8-8 extension could happen

LMU93396October 27, 2016 03:37AM

  Yup. It has to be with Goff playing...

max379October 27, 2016 04:11AM

  I don't think he'll fire Fisher this year..

sstrams420October 25, 2016 05:06PM

  I don't either...

JamesJM389October 25, 2016 05:19PM

  Re: This right here...

dzrams388October 25, 2016 06:44PM

  enh

zn435October 25, 2016 07:18PM

  Don't see that at all...

JamesJM464October 25, 2016 07:40PM

  Re: Don't see that at all...

zn467October 25, 2016 10:01PM

  Re: Don't see that at all...

JamesJM387October 25, 2016 10:35PM

  Re: Don't see that at all...

zn389October 26, 2016 05:07AM

  The bs part..

sstrams277October 26, 2016 07:06AM

  Re: The bs part..

zn419October 26, 2016 07:45AM

  I've tried not to bash..

sstrams406October 26, 2016 08:40AM

  Re: I've tried not to bash..

zn364October 26, 2016 08:51AM

  Thanks and sorry..

sstrams387October 26, 2016 08:53AM

  Re: enh

stlramz343October 25, 2016 07:42PM

  Re: enh

zn500October 25, 2016 10:06PM

  Seriously? (Part 2)

RamUK327October 26, 2016 02:50PM

  Re: Seriously? (Part 2)

zn356October 26, 2016 06:33PM

  There is something called critical thinking

RamUK356October 27, 2016 02:53AM

  Re: There is something called critical thinking

zn359October 27, 2016 04:31AM

  Well then Stan better extend that contract now

BigGame81356October 26, 2016 05:05AM

  Fisher would be an upgrade in Jacksonville

BigGame81403October 26, 2016 05:09AM

  alarming results

max450October 26, 2016 12:30AM

  Not really.

-X-406October 26, 2016 04:49AM

  Opinion and conjecture at this point....

max396October 26, 2016 05:21AM

  Re: Opinion and conjecture at this point....

-X-529October 26, 2016 05:48AM

  the correct representation.

max361October 26, 2016 07:21AM

  More like the confusing representation.

-X-456October 26, 2016 07:53AM

  Didn't say that, you did.

max554October 26, 2016 08:13AM

  They were your words, though.

-X-395October 26, 2016 08:21AM

  New city equals new posters

PHDram397October 27, 2016 04:48AM

  i believe men landed on the moon....

wv ram426October 26, 2016 10:37AM

  Think of how much time we spend

Hazlet Hacksaw354October 26, 2016 10:57AM

  i think i do not think

wv ram433October 26, 2016 11:26AM

  Hmmmm

Hazlet Hacksaw354October 26, 2016 11:56AM

  Special mention

Hazlet Hacksaw376October 26, 2016 11:57AM

  I was banned...

JamesJM416October 27, 2016 08:49AM

  Re: i believe men landed on the moon....

zn436October 26, 2016 11:22AM

  plastic helmets....

wv ram444October 26, 2016 11:43AM

  Good one

Hazlet Hacksaw371October 26, 2016 12:17PM

  Re: plastic helmets....

73Ram468October 26, 2016 12:31PM

  Max's Fisher-bobble-head....

wv ram389October 26, 2016 12:59PM

  bobbly-wobbly-head-thingy....

73Ram417October 26, 2016 01:02PM

  herd wobblies....

wv ram304October 26, 2016 01:20PM

  OK...I have nothing for that!!!! Nice....nm

73Ram376October 27, 2016 01:09PM

  I like Jeff Fisher as a person...

max392October 26, 2016 02:20PM

  Re: Max's Fisher-bobble-head....

DaJudge489October 26, 2016 02:31PM

  Re: plastic helmets....

zn380October 26, 2016 12:50PM

  if you didnt like the Rams and came here

Hazlet Hacksaw350October 26, 2016 11:58AM

  Re: if you didnt like the Rams and came here

zn474October 26, 2016 07:43PM

  positive lurch

21Dog483October 27, 2016 08:46AM

  Re: True DAT!!....NM

laram589October 26, 2016 10:48AM

  What is this insidious bias?

PHDram453October 27, 2016 04:36AM

  That is the rankest of psychologism

-X-422October 27, 2016 12:17PM

  Unless the go on an ugly streak I don't see it.

DaJudge444October 26, 2016 10:03AM

  The poll states after the season...Nothing about during the season..(NM)

PaulButcher59369October 26, 2016 11:34AM

  Well then you have my two cents on whether they fire him during the season.

DaJudge394October 26, 2016 11:38AM

  LOL...(NM)

PaulButcher59414October 26, 2016 11:43AM

  =-)

DaJudge429October 26, 2016 11:52AM

  I'd be willing to bet!!!!

Ramgator424October 26, 2016 12:42PM

  There's a caveat here that I forgot...

max456October 26, 2016 04:02PM

  funny thing is only 41 votes nm

ferragamo79426October 27, 2016 10:04AM

  I think I know why

LesBaker539October 27, 2016 10:11AM