Re: I'll take that every day rampage,
| September 23, 2016 06:43AM |
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If they lay an egg, then yes, I'm back on the fire Fisher bandwagon
But to me, he is just the scapegoat- this is a players league and there has to come a time when we start to hold them accountable also.
Brady Quinn was on Sirius the other day and his partner was trying to bash Fisher and Brady said that he loved Fisher in the short time he was there and that all the players did. He commanded and got respect form everybody in the building as he turned over a roster and brought back a competitive culture...and said that sometimes you have to look at the players and not just the coaching when things aren't going great. I believe that.
Yes ultimately the coach is the one left holding the bag and just like the QB, they get way too much credit when things are going good and way too much blame when things aren't.
It's not just players. In the last 2 years they had to replace 2 qbs and an entire OL, which means the new one is relatively inexperienced.
Sometimes players can't overcome things like that either.
In fact, of all the fans from all over the country who live near and know about other teams, not once has anyone offered an example of a team that lost the starting qb and had to play a #2 caliber qb instead PLUS had heavy issues with the OL...and done well.
Logic tells you that's not a formula for success.
For that matter going 7-9 under those conditions, while playing in a tough division and against a strong overall schedule, is pretty good.
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You've repeated those challenges maybe 50 times now, zn. We get it.
But all HC's have challenges. Bellichik is winning with his 3rd string QB, for example.
I'll repeat Fisher's long term record.
[www.pro-football-reference.com]
No winning season since '08.
No playoff wins since '03.
I think there's more than player health issues to account for those long dry spells.
Well I am not sure you DO get it. I think you seem to be denying it.
So for example, I list 2 simultaneous conditions.
You then
1. respond with an example from the best coach in the league and act like all 30 other teams don't match that comparison either, That is a fallacy---you take an exception and treat like a norm. So for example if I said I will have to be tight this month with my budget, and you replied with Stan Kroenke is building an entire new stadium with his own money, why cant you do that.
2. respond with a ONE condition example (back-up qb) thereby ignoring the fact that I listed 2 SIMULTANEOUS conditions.
Both of which just cause me to think you don't get what you claim to get at all.
Saying you're tired of hearing something, 43, is not the same as having a good argument against it.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/23/2016 06:44AM by zn.
