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On Keenum and Goff

September 21, 2016 09:39AM
I heard 2 things from Marcellus Wiley and Eric Davis on radio.

1. When a HC starts pointing to a specific player or position that is noteworthy. When Fisher calls out a player with criticism or false praise that guy's days are numbered. In this case it's Keenum when Fisher talked about not giving him blame or credit. They said the guys in the locker room are thinking the same thing. We should expect Goff soon.

2. Davis said he sat with Kroenke before the draft and told him the Rams should take Wentz cause he was a bigger, stronger, and a winner. He thought Wentz was a better fit for the Rams. He also said he knows why the Rams picked Goff. It's because Goff showed that he can get into the end zone from inside the 30. And that's what they felt they were missing. That's what they valued and wanted the most. I think Davis also said analytics played a role in the Rams evaluation. Apparently Goff had the best analytics.

What was interesting was that these guys, especially Davis since he said he looked closely at the tape twice, did not blame the OL for the Rams offensive problems. They said it was 2 things.

One is that Boras needs to get more creative in getting Gurley in better situations. Defenses aren't fooled by any of the Rams running schemes. Davis said Gurley touched the ball 20 times (I think that was the number) and he had to beat a free defender almost every time one on one almost immediately. Boras has got to do better than that.

And that with Keenum and these receivers, defenses don't respect them going downfield. Just because the Rams hit one or two deeper passes, defenses still don't respect it. They don't believe the Rams can do it consistently enough to beat them. Maybe Cooper will help.

What those ex-players were saying is that teams crowding LOS has less to do with Rams targets, and mostly to do with scheme and QB. Keenum just doesn't have enough ability to threaten teams deep on his own and he limits what Boras can call. I heard them say that teams need 4 games to get a book on a guy in a system and the book is out on Keenum. They also applied that to Gurley in this system. He's had only one 100 yard game in his last 10 games, and the OL is healthy now. As Fisher said it all points to the QB position. When you're seeing 9 in the box on every play, then the QB needs to produce a lot more than what Keenum is producing.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/21/2016 09:41AM by max.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  On Keenum and Goff

max865September 21, 2016 09:39AM

  Oh good, a new topic...

JamesJM417September 21, 2016 09:42AM

  Hey, It's not as bad as the Warner / Bulger post battles!

Ramgator393September 21, 2016 09:45AM

  Wentz would not be as far as long with Rams

Rams_81614September 21, 2016 10:12AM

  Go look

LesBaker393September 21, 2016 10:33AM

  That's true, very slowly...

max388September 21, 2016 11:02AM

  Any crucifixion of Mannion...

JamesJM316September 21, 2016 11:05AM

  Thinking the same, James. What if Mannion played well?

ArizonaRamFan363September 21, 2016 11:11AM

  Good point about Fisher and QB controversies....

max389September 21, 2016 11:14AM

  Can we use the word "schadenfreude" on this board?

JamesJM264September 21, 2016 11:15AM

  Re: Where's Shaky when you need him?

RamsFanSinceLA434September 21, 2016 12:33PM

  Re: Where's Shaky when you need him?

Shaky345September 21, 2016 01:16PM

  Bradford 1st round and 4th round

Rams_81338September 21, 2016 02:09PM

  You mean crucifixion of Fisher...

max350September 21, 2016 11:12AM

  Yes, I did.. thanks for the correction. (nm)

JamesJM307September 21, 2016 11:13AM

  Mannion has not played a down in the NFL

Rams_81321September 21, 2016 02:08PM

  Yes he did.

JamesJM378September 21, 2016 02:13PM

  thank you for correcting me

Rams_81429September 21, 2016 02:43PM

  Re: thank you for correcting me

Rams43337September 21, 2016 02:47PM

  Thank you

Rams_81330September 21, 2016 05:39PM

  keenumania

wv ram407September 21, 2016 10:56AM

  Re: keenumania

max374September 21, 2016 11:09AM

  Goff-Day

wv ram300September 21, 2016 11:21AM

  Re: Goff-Day

JamesJM335September 21, 2016 11:26AM

  Keyshawn Johnson agrees with you...

max523September 21, 2016 11:37AM