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I doubt anybody here is "against Goff".

September 02, 2016 08:21PM
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Saguaro
I'm sure not going to be able to turn the herd around. Have at it, guys. I'm taking notes, lol.
In the meantime I'll just climb up the arroyo out of the way of the thundering hooves, and watch.

But lemme just say this:

I don't think it's one thing with him. I think it's an accumulation.
I don't have enough information or expertise to either blame or exonerate the coaching staff.

He had a lot of things to learn at once. And he didn't do it in one preseason.
The guys he was playing with in games didn't help him too much. A lot of pass rush pressure at times. A lot of drops. No continuity.
Stumbling and fumbling a shotgun snap and getting a pass batted for an int.
It all looks bad, and it is bad, but I think it looks a lot worse than it is.

Then he loses a little confidence, and he starts pressing, and everything gets out of sync and harder than it should be.

For now, I'm sticking with what I saw when I wanted the Rams to draft him, and it wasn't "pro-readiness".
I think out of the spotlight he'll start to get it down, and relax, and the things that made him a top QB will come to the fore again, and Ram fans will be happy.

That's what I think. But what do I know?

Just speaking for myself..........

I was against the decision to mortgage the farm for him or draft him #1. But I'm not against him. I'm rooting for him to overcome his deficiencies and for his strengths to ultimately win out. But that doesn't compel or require me to deny what is plainly obvious until or unless he changes it.

My greatest wish during this training camp and preseason was that Goff would come in and show the markers that the vast majority of future great players do in his situation. It hasn't happened. Rather than allay any fears, he's stoked them. And I'll say again, while I know that's not necessarily determinative, there are always exceptions, I also know the implications are not good.

Additionally, every time I see a rationalization like 'the spotlight is part of the problem and once that's gone, he'll be fine,' it makes me feel worse, not better. Shrinking in the spotlight is just one more negative marker. The last thing I wanted to do was be sitting here a week before the season starts with his biggest believers tacitly admitting he couldn't handle the attention and rise to the occasion.....but he'll be fine and we'll all be happy.

Just take this note. I'm for him, not against him. And it's because I'm for him that I'm worried about the continuously growing pile of troubles and failures that are growing the odds against him being fine and Rams fans being happy..

Maybe he'll be fine.....eventually. But if he will be, especially given the dearth of comparable happy ending precedents, it sure would be nice if he'd just start showing us why we should believe it rather than why we should be afraid....very afraid.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  My takes from game 4

GreatRamNTheSky1543September 02, 2016 03:35AM

  Re: My takes from game 4

zn498September 02, 2016 03:55AM

  Re: My takes from game 4

LMU93477September 02, 2016 03:57AM

  Thomas

21Dog566September 02, 2016 04:37AM

  Re: Thomas

LMU93527September 02, 2016 04:46AM

  Doom and gloom

Hazlet Hacksaw617September 02, 2016 04:44AM

  Re: Doom and gloom

zn470September 02, 2016 05:04AM

  Of course that's what it is

Hazlet Hacksaw424September 02, 2016 05:26AM

  kendricks cut?!?!

joram430September 02, 2016 01:29PM

  Re: kendricks cut?!?!

zn448September 02, 2016 02:53PM

  When expectations meets reality...

Guard748September 02, 2016 05:22AM

  Goff

wv ram436September 02, 2016 05:04PM

  We've got a pretty good stampede running against Goff right now.

Saguaro599September 02, 2016 05:47PM

  Re: We've got a pretty good stampede running against Goff right now.

Rams43406September 02, 2016 06:02PM

  It's a rational...

Guard401September 02, 2016 06:02PM

  Re: Coming from me this is a revelation...

laram428September 02, 2016 06:06PM

  Very Concerned.......

Ramsfan1971494September 02, 2016 06:27PM

  Well..um...er..I can't help you there.

Saguaro545September 02, 2016 06:39PM

  Re: We've got a pretty good stampede running against Goff right now.

zn389September 02, 2016 06:38PM

  I doubt anybody here is "against Goff".

9er8er610September 02, 2016 08:21PM

  "afraid, very afraid" "ominous wall".

Saguaro334September 02, 2016 09:11PM

  Re: I doubt anybody here is "against Goff".

zn354September 03, 2016 02:57AM

  "The attention"

ArizonaRamFan421September 03, 2016 06:44AM

  "Spotlight" = "Attention"

9er8er430September 03, 2016 06:59AM

  Re: "Spotlight" = "Attention"

zn440September 03, 2016 07:44AM

  Re: "Spotlight" = "Attention"

9er8er479September 03, 2016 07:57AM

  You're right.

Saguaro428September 03, 2016 03:32AM

  Re: You're right.

21Dog492September 03, 2016 03:50AM

  Re: You're right.

dodgerram517September 03, 2016 04:01AM

  Yep this too

Speed_Kills443September 03, 2016 05:00AM

  right as rain

wv ram365September 03, 2016 05:25AM

  Re: right as rain

21Dog413September 03, 2016 05:29AM

  Re: right as rain

wv ram427September 03, 2016 05:33AM

  what....me worry?

21Dog379September 03, 2016 05:38AM

  well, I'm not dampered by Goff's slow assimilation....

SunTzu_vs_Camus382September 03, 2016 04:11AM

  Re: well, I'm not dampered by Goff's slow assimilation....

dodgerram449September 03, 2016 04:14AM

  I never said we didn't need "good QB play"...

SunTzu_vs_Camus368September 03, 2016 04:21AM

  Re: I never said we didn't need "good QB play"...

dodgerram380September 03, 2016 04:26AM

  cuz even simple game managers are hard to find...

SunTzu_vs_Camus434September 03, 2016 04:33AM

  Re: cuz even simple game managers are hard to find...

dodgerram396September 03, 2016 04:54AM

  CK will hold the fort and keep the Rams competitve

SunTzu_vs_Camus546September 03, 2016 05:09AM

  +1

RamsFanSince69546September 03, 2016 06:24AM

  boring offense....

wv ram357September 03, 2016 05:29AM

  Re: Some people simply have doubts

Speed_Kills362September 03, 2016 04:52AM

  I KNOW that you want him to succeed, Speed.

Saguaro355September 03, 2016 05:46AM

  I see it a little differently

9er8er363September 03, 2016 07:42AM

  arroyo ram

wv ram568September 03, 2016 05:19AM

  much smaller than a canyon, bigger than a wash. nm

Saguaro447September 03, 2016 05:45AM