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Dodgy Critques or Legit Speculation?

Anonymous User
August 31, 2016 04:08PM
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Fisher and his assistants (Weinke/Boras) must have known from the day they drafted him that they might not be equipped or experienced enough to put him in a position to challenge CK in his rookie debut.

I just completely disagree with that. These are all opinions of course but here's mine---I don't think that what you just described is remotely the reality.

For one thing, the reason Goff right now doesn't (yet) look better than Keenum and Mannion is because the latter 2 have already benefitted from their coaching to a greater extent than he has because they have been with the Rams longer.

The mistake people make with Keenum btw is that they judge him entirely on the basis of his average physical skills. What that misses is that his strengths are intangibles and mental stuff---and he knows a complex offense inside and out. He is fluent in it. He is a very smart, and game smart, player that way. Certainly the best #2 qb the Rams have had in years and years.

I like the way Cosell put it. Goff is being asked to play Mahler, not Mary Had a Little Lamb. This offense includes audibles, calling protections, and sight adjustments where the qb has to be on the same page with the WRs depending on both pre-snap and post-snap reads. He is OBVIOUSLY struggling with that because it's a lot. BUT once he is fluent in it I am confident it will show.

When Goff is up and running, I am convinced he will at the very least be a very good one. That's my best hunch from watching him. But the Rams did not simplify things for him the way Dallas did for Prescott.

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Well zn if you read the entirety of what I posted I thought the part you quoted of what I said should have been an obvious cynical statement..

Of course every NFL professional coaching staff believes they are equipped to handle and teach a player to be the best he can be as quickly as possible... I was not trying to portray that as a remote reality for anyone that read the entire context of the post.

I also wrote this comment..

Or maybe they quietly knew all along in their scouting that JG was going to need a redshirt year but obviously would never expose that mindset to the media after moving from so far back up to the #1 spot.

and this comment

To be fair to Fisher and his offensive assistants and so I don't sound like I'm some message board qb whisperer, JG may be a slower study than I projected and its much more on him than the coaching staff. Its possible that JG just never was going to be ready his rookie season no matter who the coaching staff or team that drafted him was.

I thought what I said was very fair and balanced with a small sprinkle of obvious cynicism in the only part that you chose to quote...

I'm on record as a Fisher supporter but I have my doubts about Wienke and Boras ( who are both Fisher's guys) based on their experience at their respected titles when it comes to JG. I could be wrong as I stated in my post.

Both of these coaches combined have less than 2 years at their NFL current coaching positions so it makes for valid skepticism...

The jury is still debating a verdict on both of them and they will get their due credit if Keenum has a breakout season, though it will always be wondered if they had the pedigree to bring along a young 21 year old spread formation quarterback the franchise traded up so far to get.





Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 08/31/2016 04:44PM by Florida_Ram.
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  Two words for the Goff skeptics

DomerRam1790August 30, 2016 10:24PM

  Re: Two words for the Goff skeptics

laram712August 31, 2016 03:44AM

  Re: Two words for the Goff skeptics

21Dog680August 31, 2016 04:13AM

  Hmmm, to be honest...

JamesJM565August 31, 2016 04:50AM

  Mentoring

MamaRAMa428August 31, 2016 04:28PM

  Re: Rodgers might be the best QB

Speed_Kills348September 01, 2016 03:34AM

  I don't think the comparison is about....

73Ram366September 01, 2016 03:39AM

  Re: ok

Speed_Kills397September 01, 2016 03:48AM

  Re: ok

73Ram324September 01, 2016 04:22AM

  Here are Rodger's 2005 stats, his rookie year

NewMexicoRam552August 31, 2016 05:17AM

  Yep. Every circumstance is different.

RockRam587August 31, 2016 05:49AM

  Rodgers was ready

9er8er393August 31, 2016 05:35PM

  If there are any "have patience with Robinson" complainers...

jemach474August 31, 2016 07:03AM

  Legit and dodgy critiques

RFL388August 31, 2016 08:54AM

  Ooopos. Goff ... not Goof.

RFL423August 31, 2016 08:56AM

  goof and spoof

wv ram441August 31, 2016 09:32AM

  I think that's a good way to put it...

JamesJM377August 31, 2016 09:58AM

  Re: I think that's a good way to put it...

zn465August 31, 2016 10:07AM

  Re: I think that's a good way to put it...

Rampage2K-400August 31, 2016 10:17AM

  Wow Throws...

JamesJM369August 31, 2016 10:29AM

  Re: Wow Throws...

Rampage2K-359August 31, 2016 10:33AM

  Good, I'm glad you have seen that....

JamesJM380August 31, 2016 10:20AM

  Re: Good, I'm glad you have seen that....

zn379August 31, 2016 10:30AM

  Re: Legit and dodgy critiques

kw13438August 31, 2016 10:15AM

  Re: Legit and dodgy critiques

zn395August 31, 2016 10:24AM

  Re: Legit and dodgy critiques

Rampage2K-563August 31, 2016 10:27AM

  Legit and dodgy critiques.. Dodgy Critques or Legit Speculation?

Anonymous User432August 31, 2016 03:07PM

  Re: Legit and dodgy critiques.. Dodgy Critques or Legit Speculation?

zn363August 31, 2016 03:15PM

  Re: Prescott

BigGame81435August 31, 2016 03:27PM

  Re: Prescott

zn394August 31, 2016 03:30PM

  Re: Prescott

BigGame81399August 31, 2016 03:32PM

  Re: Prescott

zn367August 31, 2016 03:46PM

  Re: Prescott

BigGame81367September 01, 2016 05:53AM

  Dodgy Critques or Legit Speculation?

Anonymous User280August 31, 2016 04:08PM

  Re: Dodgy Critques or Legit Speculation?

zn382August 31, 2016 07:43PM

  Rodgers/Favre not comparable at all

moklerman456August 31, 2016 10:52AM

  Re: Two words for the Goff skeptics

BobCarl345August 31, 2016 12:18PM

  Re: You lost me at the end...

laram377August 31, 2016 03:12PM

  Re: You lost me at the end...

BobCarl431September 01, 2016 04:58AM

  Re: What do you consider scrambling?...

laram303September 01, 2016 05:49AM

  Re: What do you consider scrambling?...

BobCarl370September 01, 2016 04:09PM

  the kid looks clueless right now

Speed_Kills392September 01, 2016 04:40PM

  Needs time

Hazlet Hacksaw347September 01, 2016 04:55PM