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Re: I agree with that...

August 06, 2016 08:27AM
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laram
People that would expect him to be.

A lot of the history of this board is gone now, so we are no longer able to refer back to some integral posts from evaluation season.

But....

~ He has no experience in a pro style offense
~ Needs development with the mechanics of dropping back from under center
~ His ball placement in short areas is not great
~ He gets frenetic in the pocket moving around to much, compromising o-line leverage at times
~ Limited experience reading coverages I watched tape where he misssed simple cover 2
~ Timing and anticipation is an issue. I don't think he's that accurate consistently

None of these things are new from me. I've discussed them with even the most ardent Goff supporter on the board.

So I didn't expect him to be ready at this point..

All the concerns about coming from that college system are flashing brightly, but the one thing I think that could make him different from the last guy they tried this on and crashed and burned with is I have a different assessment of the bullet in red. Goff has MUCH better feet and pocket presence. His nimble feet and ability to feel and avoid pressure while keeping his eyes downfield at Cal is the main thing that gives me hope he can defy the odds and develop into a good NFL QB....eventually. He has an uphill climb, though, as do all QB's that have been developed under the likes of Sonny Dykes rather than a college coach and system that would have actually prepared them to play in the NFL.


Wholeheartedly. But I'm not comparing Goff to him. They are two totally different players with different skill sets.

Feet, pocket presence, clock, are very dissimilar.

But again, I noticed his movement in the pocket sometimes compromises the blocking scheme.

I.e., moving outside when the tackle is blocking the defender to the outside, etc.



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Laram
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  Re: Brooks says Goff nowhere near ready, Keenum should start.

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  Brooks said the same thing ive been saying

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  Re: Brooks said the same thing ive been saying

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  Re: Brooks says Goff nowhere near ready, Keenum should start.

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  Re: Brooks says Goff nowhere near ready, Keenum should start.

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  Re: Brooks says Goff nowhere near ready, Keenum should start.

dzrams568August 06, 2016 03:10AM

  I don't agree with this at all...

JamesJM707August 05, 2016 09:00PM

  All due respect to Bucky Brooks but

GreatRamNTheSky626August 06, 2016 01:38AM

  Re: All due respect to Bucky Brooks but

Anonymous User666August 06, 2016 04:02AM

  I don't need Bucky to tell me anything

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  Re: I don't need Bucky to tell me anything

Rams43495August 09, 2016 07:00AM

  I don't need Bucky to tell me anything..Well said GreatRam

Anonymous User672August 09, 2016 01:41PM

  Re: Brooks says Goff nowhere near ready, Keenum should start.

Speed_Kills552August 06, 2016 03:50AM

  My take...

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  Re: My take...

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  Re: Thanks, Saguaro

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  Re: My take...

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  Re: My take...

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  Comparison to Bradford

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  Re: Goff and Bradford

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  Forgive my callousness toward the Mod team

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  Re: Forgive my callousness toward the Mod team

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  Re: Brooks says Goff nowhere near ready, Keenum should start.

9er8er576August 06, 2016 08:51AM

  Well now it's official the Mission From God is complete

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  Re: The problem is expecting otherwise...

laram632August 06, 2016 06:07AM

  I'd agree with most of that

9er8er509August 06, 2016 08:15AM

  Re: I agree with that...

laram465August 06, 2016 08:27AM

  Re: The problem is expecting otherwise...

Speed_Kills490August 06, 2016 09:46AM

  Deja Vu All Over Again

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  Re: Deja Vu All Over Again

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  Hopefully you're right at the end of the day

9er8er634August 06, 2016 08:34AM

  Re: Hopefully you're right at the end of the day

Anonymous User580August 06, 2016 09:09AM

  Speaking of Deja Vu

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  If Goff looks like a starter before week one of ....

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  how is the kid supposed to be ready yet?...

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  I think Brooks' point was

9er8er608August 06, 2016 09:43AM

  Re: I think Brooks' point was

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  Re: I think Brooks' point was

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